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#1 TheAverageJoe

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 11:38 PM

Norfolk Southern plans to honor Fallen Flags that have made up present day NS. As well, they will celebrate the 30th anniversary of the 1982 merger of Norfolk & Western and Southern. 10 EMD SD70ACe’s that are being constructed at EMD-Muncie, Indiana, and eight GE ES44ACs from an upcoming order for 25 units . These ten SD70ACes will be numbered 1065-1074 while the eight ES44ACs will be selected from an order of 25 to be numbered 8091-8115 and will be painted as accurately as possible using the original logos and liveries as a guide! The EMD-Muncie will paint all 10 heritage units ,and the NS shops will paint the eight GE-built units at Altoona, PA, and Chattanooga, TN.

The original idea was to simply do N&W and SR paint schemes however that has changed. The predecessor railroads that are being considered for NS heritage paint are: Central of Georgia, Conrail, Erie, Erie Lackawanna, Lehigh Valley, New Haven, New York Central, Nickel Plate Road, Norfolk & Western, Penn Central, Pennsylvania, Reading, Savannah & Atlanta, Southern Railway, Tennessee, Alabama & Georgia, Virginian, Pittsburgh & West Virginia, and the Wabash.

Other paint schemes that are being considered include: the original Norfolk and Southern RR and Central New Jersey

http://www.canadianr...2012south16.htm


http://www.nscorp.co...age_images.html

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 10:08 PM

Here is a pic of the 1st unit

http://www.nscorp.co...tage1_large.jpg

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:11 AM

The next unit to be released is a SOUTHERN unit. Early photo as follows:

http://akronrrclub.f.../sr-ns-unit.jpg

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"The next station is Harold Washington Library, State and Van Buren. Doors open on the right at Harold Washington Library,

State and Van Buren. Transfer to Purple and Brown Line trains at Harold Washington Library, State and Van Buren."


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Posted 19 March 2012 - 03:50 PM

View PostTheAverageJoe, on 18 March 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

Here is a pic of the 1st unit

http://www.nscorp.co...tage1_large.jpg
Always liked the Conrail scheme, looks good on those units.
CT driven (retired) = 486 buses as of May 22, 2013
T6H-5307N = 21 - 873, 74, 902, 10, 28, 45, 70, 73, 74, 77, 92, 1002, 43, 46, 49, 61, 85, 1115, 20, 54, 56
TC40-102N = 54 – 5003-6, 11, 13-15, 24, 27, 34-39, 42, 43, 46, 48, 50, 51, 54, 56, 57, 59, 65, 66, 73-76, 78-80, 82-86, 89, 91, 92, 94-96, 99-101, 104, 107, 108, 112, 113
D60LFR = 45 - 6001, 3-6, 8-11, 13-15, 17, 18, 22-27, 29, 30, 33-39, 41, 43, 45, 46, 48-50, 54-58, 60-63
D40 = 1 - 7001
D40LF = 299 - 7501-3, 5, 7-9, 11-15, 17-19, 21, 22-24, 26, 27, 29-35, 37, 39, 41, 42, 44-46, 48, 50, 54, 56-60, 62, 65, 66, 68-71, 73-78, 80, 82, 85, 86, 88, 89, 7603-5, 10, 18, 19, 23, 25, 31, 33, 36, 38, 40-42, 44, 53, 57-61, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70-72, 74, 78, 91, 92, 7701-4, 6-9, 12-14, 16-23, 25-30, 32-36, 38-40, 42, 44, 45, 48, 49, 52, 53, 55, 56, 58-60, 64, 66, 67, 69-72, 74, 76, 78, 80-84, 86, 90, 92-94, 96, 98, 7800, 4, 6, 7, 10, 11, 13, 16, 18, 23, 24, 26, 28-30, 32-37, 41, 42, 44, 46, 48, 52-56, 58, 61, 63, 64, 66, 68-70, 75, 76, 78, 79, 81, 83-85, 89, 90, 92-94, 97, 7900-2, 6, 8, 9, 11-14, 16, 20, 21, 23, 26, 27, 31-40, 42, 44, 46, 48-51, 54-61, 64-66, 74, 75, 77, 82-84, 89, 94, 95, 99, 8000, 2, 3, 5, 7, 13, 15, 18, 19, 23, 24, 27, 29, 30, 34, 36, 42-46, 48-52, 54-56, 61, 64
D40LFR = 18 - 8066, 68, 70, 71, 73, 75-77, 79, 80, 82, 84, 87, 90-94
LFS = 48 - 8101, 3, 7-9, 11, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 21, 24-27, 33, 34, 36, 38, 40-42, 44, 45, 47- 49, 51-53, 55-57, 59, 60, 62, 63, 66-68, 70, 71, 74, 76, 77, 79, 99

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 04:27 AM

A+++ for NS doing this. I would live for CN or CP to do the same....

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 12:17 PM

View Postimprezzed, on 20 March 2012 - 04:27 AM, said:

A+++ for NS doing this. I would live for CN or CP to do the same....

That would be grand

View PostD40LF, on 19 March 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:

Always liked the Conrail scheme, looks good on those units.


agreed

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 12:32 PM

View Postimprezzed, on 20 March 2012 - 04:27 AM, said:

A+++ for NS doing this. I would live for CN or CP to do the same....

What, you mean like CP's 7312 or 3084? As for CN, they don't really have that many paint schemes to choose from, and considering that they've been using the same basic paint scheme for the past 51 years....

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 12:42 PM

View Postsmallspy, on 20 March 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

What, you mean like CP's 7312 or 3084? As for CN, they don't really have that many paint schemes to choose from, and considering that they've been using the same basic paint scheme for the past 51 years....

Dan

For CN you can still have the classic green and some of the variances of the basic scheme over the past 51 years. Also include roads that CN has taken over the years.
Also for CP include the roads taken over the years as well.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 03:43 PM

View PostTheAverageJoe, on 20 March 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

Also include roads that CN has taken over the years.

What railroads? Besides DMIR, IC (sorta), ACR and WI, there really aren't that many choices. Thus my comment.

View PostTheAverageJoe, on 20 March 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

Also for CP include the roads taken over the years as well.

Oh, absolutely. But again, not that many to choose from. Certainly nowhere near as many to choose from as NS or UP.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 03:54 PM

View Postsmallspy, on 20 March 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

What railroads? Besides DMIR, IC (sorta), ACR and WI, there really aren't that many choices. Thus my comment.
Dan
DW&P, NAR, GT, CV, GTW are the only other ones I can think off.
CT driven (retired) = 486 buses as of May 22, 2013
T6H-5307N = 21 - 873, 74, 902, 10, 28, 45, 70, 73, 74, 77, 92, 1002, 43, 46, 49, 61, 85, 1115, 20, 54, 56
TC40-102N = 54 – 5003-6, 11, 13-15, 24, 27, 34-39, 42, 43, 46, 48, 50, 51, 54, 56, 57, 59, 65, 66, 73-76, 78-80, 82-86, 89, 91, 92, 94-96, 99-101, 104, 107, 108, 112, 113
D60LFR = 45 - 6001, 3-6, 8-11, 13-15, 17, 18, 22-27, 29, 30, 33-39, 41, 43, 45, 46, 48-50, 54-58, 60-63
D40 = 1 - 7001
D40LF = 299 - 7501-3, 5, 7-9, 11-15, 17-19, 21, 22-24, 26, 27, 29-35, 37, 39, 41, 42, 44-46, 48, 50, 54, 56-60, 62, 65, 66, 68-71, 73-78, 80, 82, 85, 86, 88, 89, 7603-5, 10, 18, 19, 23, 25, 31, 33, 36, 38, 40-42, 44, 53, 57-61, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70-72, 74, 78, 91, 92, 7701-4, 6-9, 12-14, 16-23, 25-30, 32-36, 38-40, 42, 44, 45, 48, 49, 52, 53, 55, 56, 58-60, 64, 66, 67, 69-72, 74, 76, 78, 80-84, 86, 90, 92-94, 96, 98, 7800, 4, 6, 7, 10, 11, 13, 16, 18, 23, 24, 26, 28-30, 32-37, 41, 42, 44, 46, 48, 52-56, 58, 61, 63, 64, 66, 68-70, 75, 76, 78, 79, 81, 83-85, 89, 90, 92-94, 97, 7900-2, 6, 8, 9, 11-14, 16, 20, 21, 23, 26, 27, 31-40, 42, 44, 46, 48-51, 54-61, 64-66, 74, 75, 77, 82-84, 89, 94, 95, 99, 8000, 2, 3, 5, 7, 13, 15, 18, 19, 23, 24, 27, 29, 30, 34, 36, 42-46, 48-52, 54-56, 61, 64
D40LFR = 18 - 8066, 68, 70, 71, 73, 75-77, 79, 80, 82, 84, 87, 90-94
LFS = 48 - 8101, 3, 7-9, 11, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 21, 24-27, 33, 34, 36, 38, 40-42, 44, 45, 47- 49, 51-53, 55-57, 59, 60, 62, 63, 66-68, 70, 71, 74, 76, 77, 79, 99

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 04:02 PM

View PostD40LF, on 20 March 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

DW&P, NAR, GT, CV, GTW are the only other ones I can think off.

I purposely left out those divisions because they used - in most cases - the same schemes as CN did. A change of lettering on a green, black and gold/yellow loco isn't going to make much of a difference once it is green, black and gold/yellow.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 04:19 PM

View Postsmallspy, on 20 March 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:



What, you mean like CP's 7312 or 3084? As for CN, they don't really have that many paint schemes to choose from, and considering that they've been using the same basic paint scheme for the past 51 years....

Dan

Yeah, but there has been a lot within the CN family, like the GT, CV, DW&P... It would be neat to see some old hearlds on new equipment.

As for CP, I forgot about their heritage units :/

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 10:59 PM

View Postsmallspy, on 20 March 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

I purposely left out those divisions because they used - in most cases - the same schemes as CN did. A change of lettering on a green, black and gold/yellow loco isn't going to make much of a difference once it is green, black and gold/yellow.

Dan
Well NAR was unique, I remember seeing a CV painted green with yellow stripes, and I think a DW&P was like that too. But aside from that yes, they used black and baby powder blue for the US roads, can't think of any other scheme.

Anyway the point I was trying to make is that there isn't that many roads that became part of CN in the past, so yes there is no point in painting them.
CT driven (retired) = 486 buses as of May 22, 2013
T6H-5307N = 21 - 873, 74, 902, 10, 28, 45, 70, 73, 74, 77, 92, 1002, 43, 46, 49, 61, 85, 1115, 20, 54, 56
TC40-102N = 54 – 5003-6, 11, 13-15, 24, 27, 34-39, 42, 43, 46, 48, 50, 51, 54, 56, 57, 59, 65, 66, 73-76, 78-80, 82-86, 89, 91, 92, 94-96, 99-101, 104, 107, 108, 112, 113
D60LFR = 45 - 6001, 3-6, 8-11, 13-15, 17, 18, 22-27, 29, 30, 33-39, 41, 43, 45, 46, 48-50, 54-58, 60-63
D40 = 1 - 7001
D40LF = 299 - 7501-3, 5, 7-9, 11-15, 17-19, 21, 22-24, 26, 27, 29-35, 37, 39, 41, 42, 44-46, 48, 50, 54, 56-60, 62, 65, 66, 68-71, 73-78, 80, 82, 85, 86, 88, 89, 7603-5, 10, 18, 19, 23, 25, 31, 33, 36, 38, 40-42, 44, 53, 57-61, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70-72, 74, 78, 91, 92, 7701-4, 6-9, 12-14, 16-23, 25-30, 32-36, 38-40, 42, 44, 45, 48, 49, 52, 53, 55, 56, 58-60, 64, 66, 67, 69-72, 74, 76, 78, 80-84, 86, 90, 92-94, 96, 98, 7800, 4, 6, 7, 10, 11, 13, 16, 18, 23, 24, 26, 28-30, 32-37, 41, 42, 44, 46, 48, 52-56, 58, 61, 63, 64, 66, 68-70, 75, 76, 78, 79, 81, 83-85, 89, 90, 92-94, 97, 7900-2, 6, 8, 9, 11-14, 16, 20, 21, 23, 26, 27, 31-40, 42, 44, 46, 48-51, 54-61, 64-66, 74, 75, 77, 82-84, 89, 94, 95, 99, 8000, 2, 3, 5, 7, 13, 15, 18, 19, 23, 24, 27, 29, 30, 34, 36, 42-46, 48-52, 54-56, 61, 64
D40LFR = 18 - 8066, 68, 70, 71, 73, 75-77, 79, 80, 82, 84, 87, 90-94
LFS = 48 - 8101, 3, 7-9, 11, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 21, 24-27, 33, 34, 36, 38, 40-42, 44, 45, 47- 49, 51-53, 55-57, 59, 60, 62, 63, 66-68, 70, 71, 74, 76, 77, 79, 99

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 12:44 AM

View PostD40LF, on 20 March 2012 - 10:59 PM, said:

Well NAR was unique, I remember seeing a CV painted green with yellow stripes, and I think a DW&P was like that too. But aside from that yes, they used black and baby powder blue for the US roads, can't think of any other scheme.

Anyway the point I was trying to make is that there isn't that many roads that became part of CN in the past, so yes there is no point in painting them.

View PostD40LF, on 20 March 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

DW&P, NAR, GT, CV, GTW are the only other ones I can think off.
Everyone missed out BC Rail. There's two schemes right there if you wanted to (two-tone green, red/white/blue)

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"The next station is Harold Washington Library, State and Van Buren. Doors open on the right at Harold Washington Library,

State and Van Buren. Transfer to Purple and Brown Line trains at Harold Washington Library, State and Van Buren."


... what station is this again?


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Posted 21 March 2012 - 12:55 PM

NS has also announced they're doing a Penn Central unit.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:33 PM

http://www.railpictu...d=392918&nseq=1



http://www.railpictu...=392854&nseq=65

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:41 PM

Conrail, Southern and Nickel Plate Road have now been released. NPR looks bad-ass!

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"The next station is Harold Washington Library, State and Van Buren. Doors open on the right at Harold Washington Library,

State and Van Buren. Transfer to Purple and Brown Line trains at Harold Washington Library, State and Van Buren."


... what station is this again?


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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:46 PM

View PostOrion 7029, on 29 March 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

Conrail, Southern and Nickel Plate Road have now been released. NPR looks bad-ass!

"Nickle Plate" was actually the New York, Chicago & St Louis Railroad (reporting marks NKP).

But yeah, it's bad-ass.....

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 12:54 AM

Wow the next one looks good, NS 8101 is done as Central of Georgia.

http://www.railpictu...d=394237&nseq=0

For anyone interested here is a shot of NS 8100 in NKP scheme.

http://www.railpictu...d=394118&nseq=3
CT driven (retired) = 486 buses as of May 22, 2013
T6H-5307N = 21 - 873, 74, 902, 10, 28, 45, 70, 73, 74, 77, 92, 1002, 43, 46, 49, 61, 85, 1115, 20, 54, 56
TC40-102N = 54 – 5003-6, 11, 13-15, 24, 27, 34-39, 42, 43, 46, 48, 50, 51, 54, 56, 57, 59, 65, 66, 73-76, 78-80, 82-86, 89, 91, 92, 94-96, 99-101, 104, 107, 108, 112, 113
D60LFR = 45 - 6001, 3-6, 8-11, 13-15, 17, 18, 22-27, 29, 30, 33-39, 41, 43, 45, 46, 48-50, 54-58, 60-63
D40 = 1 - 7001
D40LF = 299 - 7501-3, 5, 7-9, 11-15, 17-19, 21, 22-24, 26, 27, 29-35, 37, 39, 41, 42, 44-46, 48, 50, 54, 56-60, 62, 65, 66, 68-71, 73-78, 80, 82, 85, 86, 88, 89, 7603-5, 10, 18, 19, 23, 25, 31, 33, 36, 38, 40-42, 44, 53, 57-61, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70-72, 74, 78, 91, 92, 7701-4, 6-9, 12-14, 16-23, 25-30, 32-36, 38-40, 42, 44, 45, 48, 49, 52, 53, 55, 56, 58-60, 64, 66, 67, 69-72, 74, 76, 78, 80-84, 86, 90, 92-94, 96, 98, 7800, 4, 6, 7, 10, 11, 13, 16, 18, 23, 24, 26, 28-30, 32-37, 41, 42, 44, 46, 48, 52-56, 58, 61, 63, 64, 66, 68-70, 75, 76, 78, 79, 81, 83-85, 89, 90, 92-94, 97, 7900-2, 6, 8, 9, 11-14, 16, 20, 21, 23, 26, 27, 31-40, 42, 44, 46, 48-51, 54-61, 64-66, 74, 75, 77, 82-84, 89, 94, 95, 99, 8000, 2, 3, 5, 7, 13, 15, 18, 19, 23, 24, 27, 29, 30, 34, 36, 42-46, 48-52, 54-56, 61, 64
D40LFR = 18 - 8066, 68, 70, 71, 73, 75-77, 79, 80, 82, 84, 87, 90-94
LFS = 48 - 8101, 3, 7-9, 11, 12, 15, 16, 18, 20, 21, 24-27, 33, 34, 36, 38, 40-42, 44, 45, 47- 49, 51-53, 55-57, 59, 60, 62, 63, 66-68, 70, 71, 74, 76, 77, 79, 99

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 01:32 AM

Nice shots!
I'd be interested in seeing the PRR unit when it's done!





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