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[M.Wright]

stm_5307N, on Feb 21 2009, 11:56 AM, said:

Sorry I don't follow US TA's rosters that much.. I wasnt aware they have DE60LF's..

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=XFzo9hnVN3c DE60LF ride
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=YXCOgCtiNk0 Fun....

[MT0603]

M.Wright, on Feb 21 2009, 08:53 PM, said:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=YXCOgCtiNk0 Fun....

That's due the CLASS rear door operation which is also plagued with problems on their D40LFs. Seems like every TA with that rear door system has problems with it.

[BusMaxx]

After reviewing this thread, and the pics ( ), i remembered reading the history of NABI on their website.... and noticed Ikarus.

Anyone remember the Orion 3???

just a thought

[smallspy]

BusMaxx, on Feb 22 2009, 09:19 PM, said:

After reviewing this thread, and the pics ( ), i remembered reading the history of NABI on their website.... and noticed Ikarus.

Anyone remember the Orion 3???

just a thought

Too bad that it's irrelevant - one has nothing to do with the other.

Dan

[R. McConnell]

Also, NABI's high-floor articulated buses (the NABI 436) seem to have performed fairly well over the years, in spite of the 60-LFW problems.

[BusMaxx]

smallspy, on Feb 22 2009, 11:58 PM, said:

Too bad that it's irrelevant - one has nothing to do with the other.

Dan

The Port of Authority, on Feb 23 2009, 12:06 AM, said:

Also, NABI's high-floor articulated buses (the NABI 436) seem to have performed fairly well over the years, in spite of the 60-LFW problems.

Point I was trying to make is that, it seems as if the same problem has come back around. Yes I understand that its not the same "company", but the roots of NABI, go back to Ikarus..... And Ikarus produced, in conjunction with Orion (then ontario bus industries) the orion 3, of which the TTC retired a good number of, due to structural issues....

Link to NABI http://www.nabiusa.com/NABI/index.html

[smallspy]

BusMaxx, on Feb 23 2009, 11:49 AM, said:

Point I was trying to make is that, it seems as if the same problem has come back around. Yes I understand that its not the same "company", but the roots of NABI, go back to Ikarus..... And Ikarus produced, in conjunction with Orion (then ontario bus industries) the orion 3, of which the TTC retired a good number of, due to structural issues....

Link to NABI http://www.nabiusa.com/NABI/index.html

Nothing has come around, because we are dealing with two different companies, using two different production facilities, and offering two different products.

Dan

[RTS_04]

Geez. Glad I shot this the other week, then...

[Chris H]

I was in Chicago a two weeks ago for the Autoshow and saw these NABIs in service, but didn't think much about them. I am still shocked CTA pulled all of them out of service because of a few that had the artic join issue. Although its better to be safe than sorry. I took some pics of the NABIs last summer. Here is one of the pics that I took.

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[A. Wong]

Chris H, on Feb 25 2009, 10:47 PM, said:

I am still shocked CTA pulled all of them out of service because of a few that had the artic join issue.

I'm sure the politics had something to do with it too. I really wonder how maintenance on those things went after the 45CLFW deal went under. I'll bet CTA will be happy to have nothing to do with NABI.

[MTA Bus Orion V 104]

I have an idea,
They should replace the, with Orion VII NG:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=_I_Fix9p31Q
(NOT MINE VIDEO)
By: PinePowerLI

I think the Chicago Transit Authority should order Orion VII NG but before that have them demo it then order when successful.

The the Orion VII NG can replace 60-LFW.

The NABI 60-LFW was taken out of service on February 19, 2009 and it's pending inspection,the CTA should just replace the NABI 60-LFW by the Orion VII NG.

[MT0603]

MTA Bus Orion V 104, on Mar 29 2009, 06:00 PM, said:

I have an idea,
They should replace the, with Orion VII NG:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=_I_Fix9p31Q
(NOT MINE VIDEO)
By: PinePowerLI

I think the Chicago Transit Authority should order Orion VII NG CNG but before that have them demo it then order when successful.

The the Orion VII NG CNG can replace 60-LFW.

Why order from Orion when they don't even have any Orions, let alone why replace 60 footers with 40 footers?

They're already ordering and receiving a bunch of DE60LFs.

Also, it looks like the NABIs have been retired, according to Chicagobus the fareboxes and bike racks have been removed from all of them. *However no official word has came from the CTA yet.

[MTA Bus Orion V 104]

MT0603, on Mar 29 2009, 05:12 PM, said:

Why order from Orion when they don't even have any Orions, let alone why replace 60 footers with 40 footers?

They're already ordering and receiving a bunch of DE60LFs.

Also, it looks like the NABIs have been retired, according to Chicagobus the fareboxes and bike racks have been removed from all of them. *However no official word has came from the CTA yet.

Well order Orion VII NG to provide extra service but before that we should demo a Orion VII NG on the CTA ti see if can be successful to run on the CTA before ordering.

[R. McConnell]

MT0603, on Mar 29 2009, 02:12 PM, said:

Why order from Orion when they don't even have any Orions, let alone why replace 60 footers with 40 footers?

Also, why would they order Orion VII NG CNG buses when the CTA doesn't have any CNG fueling facilities?

MT0603, on Mar 29 2009, 02:12 PM, said:

Also, it looks like the NABIs have been retired, according to Chicagobus the fareboxes and bike racks have been removed from all of them. *However no official word has came from the CTA yet.

Hmm... glad I got my 60-LFW rides and pictures when I did

[general682002]

Been told those have Series 50 EGR with ZF Transmission, is that right?

[MTA Bus Orion V 104]

The Port of Authority, on Mar 29 2009, 06:34 PM, said:

Also, why would they order Orion VII NG CNG buses when the CTA doesn't have any CNG fueling facilities?



Hmm... glad I got my 60-LFW rides and pictures when I did

If they don't have CNG fueling then they can order a then they can order a Orion VII NG and it can be a Diesel or Diesel Electric or Hybrid,but before that demo a Orion VII NG.

general682002, on Mar 29 2009, 06:35 PM, said:

Been told those have Series 50 EGR with ZF Transmission, is that right?

yes they do.

[MT0603]

The Port of Authority, on Mar 29 2009, 05:34 PM, said:

Also, why would they order Orion VII NG CNG buses when the CTA doesn't have any CNG fueling facilities?



Hmm... glad I got my 60-LFW rides and pictures when I did

Lucky you, I'm going in May and I was looking really forward to riding some. Oh well

MTA Bus Orion V 104, on Mar 29 2009, 05:37 PM, said:

If they don't have CNG fueling then they can order a then they can order a Orion VII NG and it can be a Diesel or Diesel Electric or Hybrid,but before that demo a Orion VII NG.

Why go through all the hastle of that when they can just order from New Flyer, they already have a huge fleet of New Flyer D/DE40LFs and DE60LFs? Getting Orions would screw up the standardization, thus costing the CTA more. Also you never answered my question, why replace 60 footers with 40 footers when they can replace the 60 footers with 60 footers.

[MTA Bus Orion V 104]

MT0603, on Mar 29 2009, 06:02 PM, said:

Lucky you, I'm going in May and I was looking really forward to riding some. Oh well


Why go through all the hastle of that when they can just order from New Flyer, they already have a huge fleet of New Flyer D/DE40LFs and DE60LFs? Getting Orions would screw up the standardization, thus costing the CTA more. Also you never answered my question, why replace 60 footers with 40 footers when they can replace the 60 footers with 60 footers.

This way it would be easy to have 40 footer instead of 60 footer because you know articulated buses!

[Bus_Medic]

MTA Bus Orion V 104, on Mar 29 2009, 08:08 PM, said:

This way it would be easy to have 40 footer instead of 60 footer because you know articulated buses!

no, i don't.

please.......enlighten me.

[R. McConnell]

MT0603, on Mar 29 2009, 03:02 PM, said:

Lucky you, I'm going in May and I was looking really forward to riding some. Oh well

I actually thought they were good buses when viewed from the passenger's perspective... they were definitely more comfortable to ride than CTA's Nova LFSs.