St John, NB - new bus lift Options

[mike from edmont...]

St John, NB has issued a tender for a new 4 post bus lift

Delivery date scheduled for: 23 November 2007

27,000 lb capacity (replaces a 6 post lift)

[general682002]

St John, NB has issued a tender for a new 4 post bust lift

Delivery date scheduled for: 23 November 2007

27,000 lb capacity (replaces a 6 post lift)

Probably U-Lift. You might be see them build for their 93 Orion.

It's also a good thing St. John's are keeping HF, mainly the snow and the big hills.

[a.dicion]

Probably U-Lift. You might be see them build for their 93 Orion.

It's also a good thing St. John's are keeping HF, mainly the snow and the big hills.

What Mike meant was Saint John, New Brunswick, not St. John's, Newfoundland.

[ttcmech]

Probably U-Lift. You might be see them build for their 93 Orion.

It's also a good thing St. John's are keeping HF, mainly the snow and the big hills.

I think the tender referrs to a bus hoist to be used in the garage for maintenance.

Gray tools makes a really slick wireless battery powered portable wheel mount hoist that would fit the bill nicely.
We've got one at malvern-works great, very versatile.

[38 Highland Cree...]

The TTC even has this type of lift on its RTSes too.

[ttcmech]

The TTC even has this type of lift on its RTSes too.

???????
you mean in the arrow rd. shop?
guys, he's talking about a vehicle hoist, not a wheelchair hoist.

[mike from edmont...]

What Mike meant was Saint John, New Brunswick, not St. John's, Newfoundland.

Exactly, the NB is a dead give a way . Didn't realize that it was supposed to be spelled out as Saint vs St. as we usually do out west, and the title does say BUS lift, so where wheelchair came from is a surprise to me...

[general682002]

Exactly, the NB is a dead give a way . Didn't realize that it was supposed to be spelled out as Saint vs St. as we usually do out west, and the title does say BUS lift, so where wheelchair came from is a surprise to me...

That got me confused very quickly.

Should have added a more detail on new bus lift hoist!

[mike from edmont...]

That got me confused very quickly.

Should have added a more detail on new bus lift hoist!

Cannot fathom how you could possibly suffer from any confusion at all, as my only error was not spelling out SAINT, which is rather uncommon out west, "NB" is the officaily recognized abbreviation for New Brunswick, "NF" is the abbreviator for Newfoundland, thus unless Saint John has moved to Newfoundland the problem rests with the reader.

As for details, I will post what I can find when available. As no model number or manufactuer was suggested, NO DETAILS are available, where do you suggest I locate unavailable details?

FYI, here is the tender announcement verbatim


Opportunity Notice

4 POST BUS LIFT - NB

Opportunity Information

Organization:
New Brunswick
Reference Number:
0198048
Solicitation Number:
0198048
Solicitation Type:
Invitation to Tender
Posting (mm/dd/yyyy):
08/20/2007
Closing (mm/dd/yyyy):
09/04/2007
Last Update (mm/dd/yyyy):
08/20/2007



Agreement Type:

Region of Opportunity:

Region of Delivery:
New Brunswick
Opportunity Type:

Commodity Codes:
N4910U: Trucks, Lift, Wheel, Automotive

Response Submission:

Response Contact:
Chessie, Denise
Tel: 1 (506) 453-3319
Fax: 1 (506) 444-4200
Response Specifics:

Opportunity Description:
Delivery Required 2007-11-23
If bidding an equivalent subsitute please indicate clearly on the tender
document the
original manufacturer's make and model number. Vendors should also include
specifications
on the product being bid with the their tender submission. The Province of
New Brunswick
will be the sole judge of equivalency.

If you require a site visit please contact:
Saint John Bus Garage
- Doug Fudge @ (506) 643-7463, or
- Albert Miner @ (506) 432-2014


MANDATORY LIFT REQUIREMENTS
The successful supplier MUST be an AUTHORIZED Distributor, Sub-Distributor
and/or
installer of the manufacturer's product being offered. (Bidders may be
requested to submit
proof of this authorization, to be submitted to PNB direct from the
manufacturer, BEFORE a
contract award is finalized.)

Your product MUST be ALI/ETL Semko Approved, and you MUST be able to
provide proof of this
certification. (www.autolift.org )

WARRANTY
All warranties on goods must be valid within Canada and warranty service
should be
provided within Canada.

CANADIAN DISTRIBUTORS
There must be NO CONFLICT with Authorized Canadian Distributors of the
goods/services
being bid.

CANADIAN OPERATING ENVIRONMENT
All goods must be compliant with Canadian operating environments (e.g.
common domestic
electricity is 60MHz, 115 volts, 1 phase) and, where applicable, must be
certified by the
appropriate Canadian regulatory agencies, unless otherwise stated.

***************************************************************************
****************

This is a tender notice only. In order to submit a bid, you must
obtain official tender documents from the New Brunswick
Opportunities Network, another authorized tendering service or as
indicated in the tender notice.

Award of contracts: no contract shall be awarded and no payment shall be
made to a vendor unless authorized by the Minister or his delegates. The
Minister may make an award to the preferred vendor conditional on the
negotiation and acceptance of a detailed contract between the Province and
the vendor. In such cases, should the detailed contract negotiations not
be completed in a reasonable period of time, the Province reserves the
right to discontinue negotiations with the vendor and subsequently enter
into negotiations with the second preferred vendor.

A bidder must obtain official bid documents from a distribution service,
authorized by the Minister of Supply and Services, in order to submit a
bid. The current authorized distribution services are the <b>New
Brunswick Opportunities Network</b> (NBON) (operated by the Department of
Supply and Services, Province of NB), <b>BIDS</b> (operated by Tender
Publications Ltd.) and <b>MERX</b> (operated by Mediagrif Interactive
Technologies). Failure to submit the official bid documents or provide
proof that the official bid documents were properly obtained will result
in rejection of the bid. In order to facilitate the evaluation process,
Bidders are requested to respond in the same format as the official bid
documents.

The Atlantic Provinces Standard Terms & Conditions for Goods and Services
apply to this procurement and are considered to be incorporated into this
document. By submitting a bid, you agree and accept these terms and
conditions. Current "Atlantic Provinces Standard Terms and Conditions" are
available on the New Brunswick Opportunities Network, the Council of
Atlantic Premiers' Website or from an authorized service provider.

For procurements which are not subject to the provisions of one or more of
the interprovincial procurement agreements, the Province of New Brunswick
reserves the right to apply Provincial or regional Preferences, consider
local content in the evaluation of bids and/or refuse to consider bids
from vendors from other jurisdictions when it is considered to be in the
best interests of the Province. When determining the use of these
conditions, the Province will consider, among other factors, the extent to
which New Brunswick vendors have access to equivalent procurement
opportunities in those jurisdictions and the treatment accorded by those
jurisdictions to bids from New Brunswick vendors. The Province will be
the sole judge of whether these conditions will be used and the extent to
which they will be applied.


<b>RETURN TO: CENTRAL TENDERING BRANCH
P.O. Box 8000 Marysville Place
Fredericton, N.B. Room Number 205, 20 McGloin Street
E3B 5H6 Fredericton, N.B.
Fax: (506)444-4200 E3A 5T8

Public opening of bids will take place on closing day at 14:00 Atlantic
Standard Time,
in Marysville Place, Room 205, 20 McGloin Street, Fredericton, N.B. E3A
5T8.</b>



All tenders must be F.O.B. destination, freight prepaid.

Sales taxes should not be included in the unit, extended or total prices.



This Invitation is being conducted under the provisions of the <i>Public
Purchasing Act</i>
and Regulation as of the date of the issuance of the Invitation. Bidders
may obtain a copy of the
Act and Regulation from The Queen's Printer, Province of N.B., P.O. Box
6000,
Fredericton, N.B. E3B 5H1


Unless the Central Purchasing Branch has determined otherwise prior to
tender closing, all prices must be extended and totalled.

All discounts quoted will be considered to be without limitations.

If, from the Invitation closing date until completion or termination of a
long term contract, the vendor offers to any third party the same goods or
services in similar quantities at a lower price than in the bid, the price
to the Province for these goods or services shall be lowered by the vendor
to this lower price for all goods or services ordered after the offer to
the third party.

Payment of invoices is the responsibility of the department or
organization to whom the goods are shipped or services are supplied.

No right or duty, in whole or in part, of the vendor under a contract
issued may be assigned or delegated without the prior consent of the
Central Purchasing Branch.

The Province of N.B. will allow government funded bodies to purchase goods
or services using long term contracts awarded as a result of an
Invitation. By submitting a bid the bidder indicates that it agrees to
extend the same pricing to government funded bodies as per the terms and
specifications in the Invitation document.

Item #: 1 Commodity No.: N4910U Quantity: 1 Only
Forward 4 post bus lift for the Department of Transportation as per the
attached specifications.
- 27,000 lb capacity
- To replace an existing 6 post hoist
- To be deliverd to the Saint John Bus Garage, 146 Industrial Dr., Saint
John,
N.B. E2R 1A5


This procurement is not subject to the provisions of interprovincial
procurement agreements. Vendors are advised to read the Atlantic
Provinces Standard Terms and Conditions for Goods and Services Invitations
carefully before submitting a bid.



Livraison requise 2007-11-23
If bidding an equivalent subsitute please indicate clearly on the tender
document the
original manufacturer's make and model number. Vendors should also include
specifications
on the product being bid with the their tender submission. The Province of
New Brunswick
will be the sole judge of equivalency.

If you require a site visit please contact:
Saint John Bus Garage
- Doug Fudge @ (506) 643-7463, or
- Albert Miner @ (506) 432-2014

MANDATORY LIFT REQUIREMENTS
The successful supplier MUST be an AUTHORIZED Distributor, Sub-Distributor
and/or
installer of the manufacturer's product being offered. (Bidders may be
requested to submit
proof of this authorization, to be submitted to PNB direct from the
manufacturer, BEFORE a
contract award is finalized.)

Your product MUST be ALI/ETL Semko Approved, and you MUST be able to
provide proof of this
certification. (www.autolift.org )

WARRANTY
All warranties on goods must be valid within Canada and warranty service
should be
provided within Canada.

CANADIAN DISTRIBUTORS
There must be NO CONFLICT with Authorized Canadian Distributors of the
goods/services
being bid.

CANADIAN OPERATING ENVIRONMENT
All goods must be compliant with Canadian operating environments (e.g.
common domestic
electricity is 60MHz, 115 volts, 1 phase) and, where applicable, must be
certified by the
appropriate Canadian regulatory agencies, unless otherwise stated.

***************************************************************************

And for those more confortable/fluent in our other offical language (this sounds like an airline announcement):


La présente est un avis d'appel d'offres seulement. Afin de
présenter une soumission, vous devez obtenir les documents de
soumission officiels en vous adressant au Réseau de possibilités
d'affaires du Nouveau-Brunswick, à un service de distribution
autorisé ou à une autre source telle qu'indiquée dans l'avis
d'appel d'offres.

Adjudication des contrats : aucun contrat ne doit être accordé ni aucun
paiement versé à un vendeur à moins d'avoir été autorisé par le Ministre
ou les personnes désignées par lui. Le Ministre peut accorder un contrat à
un vendeur privilégié à condition qu'un contrat détaillé ait été négocié
et accepté entre la Province et le vendeur. Dans ce cas, si les
négociations du contrat détaillé ne sont pas terminées dans un délai
raisonnable, la Province se réserve le droit d'interrompre les
négociations avec le vendeur et d'entreprendre par la suite des
négociations avec le vendeur privilégié suivant.

Le soumissionnaire doit obtenir les documents de soumission officiels d'un
service de distribution autorisé par le ministre de l'Approvisionnement et
des Services afin de pouvoir présenter sa soumission. Ces services de
distribution autorisés sont :<b>le Réseau des possibilités d'affaires du
Nouveau-Brunswick (RPANB)</b> (offert par le ministère de
l'Approvisionnement et des Services du Nouveau Brunswick), <b>BIDS</b>
(offert par Tender Publications Ltd.) et <b>MERX</b> (offert par Mediagrif
Interactive Technologies). Pour qu'une soumission soit acceptée, il faut
qu'elle soit présentée sur des formules officielles ou que l'on puisse
montrer que les formules ont été obtenues de façon dûment autorisée. Dans
le but de faciliter le processus d'évaluation, on demande aux
soumissionnaires de répondre selon le même format que celui du document de
soumission officiel.

Les Conditions générales normalisées des provinces de l'Atlantique pour
les marchés de biens et services s'appliquent à cet achat et sont réputées
faire partie du présent document. En présentant une offre, vous approuvez
et acceptez ces conditions générales. Vous pouvez obtenir les « Conditions
générales normalisées des provinces de l'Atlantique » courantes par le
biais du Réseau de possibilités d'affaires du Nouveau-Brunswick, le site
Web du Conseil des premiers ministres de l'Atlantique ou par l'entremise
d'un fournisseur de services autorisé.

Pour les approvisionnements qui ne sont pas assujettis aux dispositions de
l'un ou l'autre des accords commerciaux entre provinces, la province du
Nouveau Brunswick se réserve le droit d'appliquer des préférences
provinciales ou régionales, de considérer le contenu local dans
l'évaluation des soumissions ou encore de refuser de considérer les
soumissions présentées par les vendeurs d'autres territoires lorsque l'on
considère que c'est au mieux des intérêts de la Province. En déterminant
le recours à ces conditions, la Province tiendra compte, entre autres
facteurs, de la capacité des vendeurs du Nouveau Brunswick d'avoir accès
aux possibilités de marchés publics équivalents dans d'autres territoires
et du traitement accordé par ces territoires aux soumissions présentées
par les vendeurs du Nouveau Brunswick. La Province est la seule à pouvoir
déterminer si ces conditions sont appliquées et jusqu'à quel point.


<b>RETOURNER À : SECTION CENTRALE DES APPELS D'OFFRES
C.P. 8000 Place Marysville
Fredericton (N.-B.) 20, rue McGloin, Bureau 205,
E3B 5H6 Fredericton (N.-B.)
Téléc. (506)444-4200 E3A 5T8

L'ouverture publique des soumissions se fera la journée de fermeture à14
h, heure de l'Atlantique,
Place Marysville, 20, rue McGloin, Bureau 205, Fredericton, (N.-B.) E3A
5T8.</b>

Présenter toutes les soumissions F.À.B. destination, port payé.

Les taxes de vente ne devraient pas être incluses dans les prix unitaires,
additionnés ou totaux.

Le présent appel d'offres est tenu en vertu des dispositions de la <i>Loi
sur les achats
public</i> et de ses règlements d'application à compter de la date de
lancement de l'appel
d'offres. Les soumissionnaires peuvent obtenir une copie de la Loi et ses
règlements auprès de
l'Imprimeur de la Reine, province du Nouveau Brunswick, C.P. 6000,
Fredericton (N. B.) E3B 5H1.


À moins d'un avis contraire de la Centrale des achats avant la fin de
l'appel d'offres, tous les prix doivent être calculés et totalisés.

Tous les rabais indiqués dans la soumission seront considérés être sans
restriction.

Si, à partir de la date de clôture de l'appel d'offres jusqu'à l'exécution
ou à la dissolution d'un contrat à long terme, le vendeur offre à une
tierce partie les mêmes biens ou services en quantités comparables à un
prix inférieur à celui de la soumission, le prix de ces biens ou services
pour la Province sera alors réduit par le vendeur jusqu'à son prix
inférieur pour tous les biens ou services commandés après l'offre à la
tierce partie.

Le paiement des factures est la responsabilité du Ministère ou
l'organisation à qui les biens ont été envoyés ou les services fournis.

Aucun droit ni obligation, en totalité ou en partie, du vendeur en vertu
du contrat accordé ne peut être attribué ou délégué sans le consentement
écrit préalable de la Direction centrale des achats.

La province du Nouveau-Brunswick permettra aux organismes subventionnés
par le gouvernement d'acheter des biens ou services en utilisant les
contrats à long terme accordés à la suite d'un appel d'offres. En
présentant une soumission, le soumissionnaire indique qu'il consent à
assurer les mêmes prix aux organismes subventionnés par le gouvernement
conformément aux modalités et spécifications indiquées dans les documents
d'appel d'offres.

Nº d'article: 1 N° de la marchandise: N4910U Quantity: 1 Seulement
Forward 4 post bus lift for the Department of Transportation as per the
attached specifications.
- 27,000 lb capacity
- To replace an existing 6 post hoist
- To be deliverd to the Saint John Bus Garage, 146 Industrial Dr., Saint
John,
N.B. E2R 1A5


Le présent marché n'est pas assujetti aux accords interprovinciaux sur les
marchés publics. Les fournisseurs sont priés de lire attentivement le
document portant sur les conditions générales normalisées des provinces de
l'Atlantique pour les marchés de biens et services avant de faire une
soumission.



Administrative address is
Central Tendering Branch
Section Centrale des Appels D'Offres
P O Box 8000 - C.P. 8000
Fredericton, New Brunswick E3B 5H6
Delivery Address is
DEPT. OF TRANSPORTATION
SAINT JOHN BUS GARAGE
146 INDUSTRIAL DRIVE
SAINT JOHN, New Brunswick E2R 1A5



L'adresse administrative est
Central Tendering Branch
Section Centrale des Appels D'Offres
P O Box 8000 - C.P. 8000
Fredericton, Nouveau-Brunswick E3B 5H6
L'adresse de livrraison est
DEPT. OF TRANSPORTATION
SAINT JOHN BUS GARAGE
146 INDUSTRIAL DRIVE
SAINT JOHN, Nouveau-Brunswick E2R 1A5

[general682002]

Well, I read fast, that's all I can tell you.

[mike from edmont...]

Well, I read fast, that's all I can tell you.

Hope so, that's a lot of data in that tender, then repeating it in french

[M. Parsons]

Hope so, that's a lot of data in that tender, then repeating it in french

And it is appricated, at least by me, that you find these tenders and give us the meat... and not all that other crap that I couldn't even finish reading.

[hfx_chris]

"NF" is the abbreviator for Newfoundland

Actually the official abbreviation is NL, for Newfoundland and Labrador. NFLD can be used in a pinch.

Didn't realize that it was supposed to be spelled out as Saint vs St. as we usually do out west

Educate as many westerners as you can!



And... is there any reason why we're getting so excited about a garage hoist?

[M. Parsons]

Actually the official abbreviation is NL, for Newfoundland and Labrador. NFLD can be used in a pinch.

Wikipedia claims NF used to be used in the past. Given that mike from edmonton is older than most on this board, I'm sure NF was used in his time...

[captaintrolley]

NL is the abbreviation used for Netherlands

[mike from edmont...]

Actually the official abbreviation is NL, for Newfoundland and Labrador. NFLD can be used in a pinch.

Educate as many westerners as you can!

And... is there any reason why we're getting so excited about a garage hoist?

Thanx Martin & Cap'n, YES old school to say the least, remember the old number code and province abbreviations? Edmonton 73 Alta yuck!

Educate as many of us westerners? well since time is the most valuable commodity on earth, and we are pretty busy out here in the colonies, have greater distances to travel etc. we tend to move faster and take short cuts. IE: St. Albert is never spelled out as Saint, Fort McMurray is usually Ft but in talking it is Fort Mac. So abbreviations are mostly a regionally thing lord thunderin' jesus eh?

As for the garage hoist, well a few of us check out tenders/notices and post what we find. As there are few members from the Maritimes so thought I'd post what I found, hell I do if for anything of interest I find (like Winnipeg radios). Why some people thought a 27,000 pound capacity (10.629kg) lift (hoist to some) was a wheelchair lift is beyond me, lordy that's 13 and a half tons. The interesting thing is they are going to a 4 post from a 6 post lift. Did they even have artics there?

[Orion VIII]

The interesting thing is they are going to a 4 post from a 6 post lift. Did they even have artics there?

Maybe they just want to have that flexibility for the future. It only makes sense.

[Mark Walton]

The notice/abstract/whatever is much like what Public Works and Government Services Canada (PWGSC, my employer) calls a Notice of Proposed Procurement (NPP). Usually the NPP contains a brief summary of the requirement. The tender document, usually a Request for Proposal in a case like this, contains more detailed specs. MERX (www.merx.com) allows potential bidders to preview the bid document in PDF format (et naturellement dans la langue officielle de leur choix) before deciding whether or not to download the bid package. Only a download constitutes a response to the solicitation, previewing does not. An Award Notice is automatically posted on MERX when a final contract is awarded.

For sole-source requirements PWGSC posts an Advance Contract Award Notice (ACAN) on MERX. An ACAN states our intention to negotiate the requirement with the supplier named in the ACAN, for the reasons stated therein. Other suppliers who may feel they too can meet the requirement can "challenge" the ACAN; PWGSC must then decide whether to open up the requirement to competition, or continue with negotiations as planned.

[mike from edmont...]

Actually they are going FROM a 6 post (replacing) down to a 4 post (new lift), so I was wondering if they had artics in the past

Mark, I actually posted a reply about MERX on the Winnipeg Radios thread below, as there is no point is reposting it here:

http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php?showtopic=3568&hl=

[hfx_chris]

The notice/abstract/whatever is much like what Public Works and Government Services Canada (PWGSC, my employer)...

Hey, I work for PWGSC in Halifax. Nice to meet you