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#21 rocketdriver2019

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 05:25 PM

I made a trip to San Francisco a couple of weeks ago. Beautiful city with a transit system to die for. Here are some shots:

A Neoplan artic on Market Street
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One of the historic PCC cars on the F line
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A cable car at the Beach end of the Powell-Hyde line
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A Muni Metro streetcar on West Portal Avenue on the M line
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The Flyer E800 trolleybus we chartered that weekend. I love the destination sign exposure :)
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An ETI Skoda Trolley bus on 4th street running route 30
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A Golden Gate Bridge Highway and Transportation District 30 foot RTS bus
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A SamTrans NABI artic outside the Transbay Terminal
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An AC Transit highway coach in Fremont on the SB line
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A four car BART train at Civic Centre station on it's way to Dublin/Pleasanton
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Hope you enjoy these, as I've used up most of my attachment space :D

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 06:11 PM

Great pics! Thanks for sharing.
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Posted 05 September 2006 - 06:33 PM

View Postrocketdriver2019, on Sep 5 2006, 05:25 PM, said:

I made a trip to San Francisco a couple of weeks ago. Beautiful city with a transit system to die for. Here are some shots:

A Neoplan artic on Market Street
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One of the historic PCC cars on the F line
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A cable car at the Beach end of the Powell-Hyde line
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A Muni Metro streetcar on West Portal Avenue on the M line
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The Flyer E800 trolleybus we chartered that weekend. I love the destination sign exposure :)
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An ETI Skoda Trolley bus on 4th street running route 30
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A Golden Gate Bridge Highway and Transportation District 30 foot RTS bus
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A SamTrans NABI artic outside the Transbay Terminal
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An AC Transit highway coach in Fremont on the SB line
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A four car BART train at Civic Centre station on it's way to Dublin/Pleasanton
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Hope you enjoy these, as I've used up most of my attachment space :D


View Poststm_5307N, on Sep 5 2006, 06:11 PM, said:

Great pics! Thanks for sharing.

Couldn't say anything other then stm_5307N already said except, That exposure is cool!!! Are you sure that's a real exposure? Because I LOVE IT!!!

#24 rocketdriver2019

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 07:20 PM

View PostM. Wright, on Sep 5 2006, 06:33 PM, said:

Couldn't say anything other then stm_5307N already said except, That exposure is cool!!! Are you sure that's a real exposure? Because I LOVE IT!!!

You mean the BART shot? I rested the camera on the handrail at the bottom of a stairway (which thankfully had a flat surface for me to put the camera) and took it on long exposure. Fortunately it was a 4 car train... had it been any longer I wouldn't have been able to get the front end in the shot.

What was also really cool is they don't care about photographers in the system. I called BART and asked before I left to see what their policy was, and the employee told me that it's perfectly allowed, and that she hadn't heard of anyone encountering problems in that regard. BART is apparently used to railfans, they even offer an excursion pass where you can get on, ride around, and leave the system at the same station you entered (since they employ a zone fare system).

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 07:29 PM

View Postrocketdriver2019, on Sep 5 2006, 07:20 PM, said:

You mean the BART shot? I rested the camera on the handrail at the bottom of a stairway (which thankfully had a flat surface for me to put the camera) and took it on long exposure. Fortunately it was a 4 car train... had it been any longer I wouldn't have been able to get the front end in the shot.

What was also really cool is they don't care about photographers in the system. I called BART and asked before I left to see what their policy was, and the employee told me that it's perfectly allowed, and that she hadn't heard of anyone encountering problems in that regard. BART is apparently used to railfans, they even offer an excursion pass where you can get on, ride around, and leave the system at the same station you entered (since they employ a zone fare system).

No I ment the E800 shot but that's cool!!! So is it like the underground in london where you have to insert you ticket into the machine to leave? Because if it is, well I guess it won't let you out at any other station will they?

#26 rocketdriver2019

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 08:12 PM

View PostM. Wright, on Sep 5 2006, 07:29 PM, said:

No I ment the E800 shot but that's cool!!! So is it like the underground in london where you have to insert you ticket into the machine to leave? Because if it is, well I guess it won't let you out at any other station will they?

Oh whoops, you mean the destination sign exposure... I thought you meant the exposure setting for the camera, my bad :) Hehehehe... long day.

Yeah that's a real destination sign exposure. It's nice to see that Muni has a sense of humour.

How the excursion pass works on BART is you buy a regular ticket, and if you exit the system with that ticket at the same station it automatically deducts the amount of the pass ($4.65 I believe). If you exit at another station it will of course work normally and deduct the fare required for that journey.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 03:47 PM

View PostM. Wright, on Sep 4 2006, 09:49 PM, said:

Did you ride the BART or CalTrain well you were down there at all?

Also did you ride inside the MUNI Metro under Market Street? It's pretty neat isn't it?

Yes I rode BART 3 times, pretty nice system they got, wear and tear is quite apparent on the railcars themselves though.

Didn't ride on Caltrain.

I did ride the MUNI Metro under Market. We ran into a big delay there once too. A train was being held up at Embarcadero Station for some reason, with 3 or 4 trains right behind it waiting to get into the station. The one track each direction doesn't seem to be able to handle that many lines very well when something goes wrong. But the MUNI Metro system as a whole is very cool with the routing it takes. I thought the Breda cars were a delight to ride.

Here are some of my photos, I'll post a few different things then what RocketDriver already showed us.

1988 New Flyer D40 #8815 on a quiet early Sunday morning downtown San Francisco
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40 foot Neoplan #8219 seen on the 47 line near the Fisherman's Wharf area.
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Orion I #9025 seen near the Coit Tower operating Route 39 Coit
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One of the Peter Witt Milan trams rolling down Market Street on the F line of course
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One of the ETI/Skoda trolleybuses seen working the 21 line somewhere along Market St.
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I'm going to try to get some photos up onto my website on this Sunday's update.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 09:22 PM

View Postrocketdriver2019, on Sep 5 2006, 08:12 PM, said:

Oh whoops, you mean the destination sign exposure... I thought you meant the exposure setting for the camera, my bad B) Hehehehe... long day.

Yeah that's a real destination sign exposure. It's nice to see that Muni has a sense of humour.

How the excursion pass works on BART is you buy a regular ticket, and if you exit the system with that ticket at the same station it automatically deducts the amount of the pass ($4.65 I believe). If you exit at another station it will of course work normally and deduct the fare required for that journey.

Cool. Some people on msn didn't belive it was real... I'll message them now.

#29 RYANBRT

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 12:37 PM

San Franciso is heaven for Transit fans!

I love that city.

Especially the Muni Metro Tunnel.

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:06 PM

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 04:42 PM

ok I'll post up some differnt stuff now
1. 1994 New Flyer E60 7040
2. 2002 ETI Skoda Trolley
3.Golden Gate Transit 2003 Orion V 1532
and something from a nearby city
2000 Orion V CNG 2009 from Regional Transit in Sacramento,California

a Tip for Flyer Hunters Try Clement and 4th

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 05:09 PM

View PostYrt304, on Sep 15 2006, 04:42 PM, said:

ok I'll post up some differnt stuff now
1. 1994 New Flyer D60 7040
2. 2002 ETI Skoda Trolley
3.Golden Gate Transit 2003 Orion V 1532
and something from a nearby city
2000 Orion V CNG 2009 from Regional Transit in Sacramento,California

a Tip for Flyer Hunters Try Clement and 4th

The first one is a E60 not a D60...

Nice pictures there though!!!

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 04:45 PM

The following is from Orion's website, discussing the delivery of MUNI #8401, the first of 56 Orion VII Hybrid buses.

"After delivery of the full order, electric hybrid buses will comprise 11 percent of MUNI's fleet. In conjunction with the other hybrid buses, cable cars, and trolleys, MUNI will then feature an electric fleet of well over 50 percent."

I never knew MUNI had "other" hybrid buses.

Anyways here is the full new release for anyone interested

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 08:17 PM

Maybe it was referring to the first unit only. So then the other hybrid buses would be the remaining 55?

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Or maybe the NABIs are Hybrids because they can just store the batterys under the floor as it is a high floor.
But that is shocking news that they already have "hybrids".

Oh I think I know what there talking about, because the Middle Door VI in NYC is a Hybrid and I know San Francisco has some middle door VIs so maybe those are the Hybrids there talking about that they already have.

Not sure if those are hybrids though but they probably are. ;)

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 01:10 AM

View PostM. Wright, on Sep 20 2006, 10:46 PM, said:

Or maybe the NABIs are Hybrids because they can just store the batterys under the floor as it is a high floor.
But that is shocking news that they already have "hybrids".

Oh I think I know what there talking about, because the Middle Door VI in NYC is a Hybrid and I know San Francisco has some middle door VIs so maybe those are the Hybrids there talking about that they already have.

Not sure if those are hybrids though but they probably are. ;)

I'm sorry but some middle door Orion VI's, since when did MUNI have Orion VI's?

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 01:13 AM

View PostM. Wright, on Sep 20 2006, 10:46 PM, said:

I know San Francisco has some middle door VIs so maybe those are the Hybrids there talking about that they already have.


Bingo!
From: http://www.motorbuss...5spr/index.html

"Also on the property for testing are two Orion VI low floor hybrid buses."

Edit: http://www.sfmuni.com/cms/rptpub/documents...b.htm#appendixA
Certainly more of an official source. It doesn't specifically say Orion VI hybrid, but I think it can be safely assumed it was the Orion VI.

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View PostM. Parsons, on Sep 21 2006, 01:13 AM, said:

Bingo!
From: http://www.motorbuss...5spr/index.html

"Also on the property for testing are two Orion VI low floor hybrid buses."

I thought it was a hybrid. Seems like all middle door VIs are hybrids does it seem that way? I have yet to find a diesel middle door VI.

EDIT: Possibly found one in washington that might not be a hybrid.
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And also a VII CNG!!!
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Posted 21 September 2006 - 01:47 AM

View PostM. Wright, on Sep 20 2006, 11:24 PM, said:

I thought it was a hybrid. Seems like all middle door VIs are hybrids does it seem that way? I have yet to find a diesel middle door VI.


Umm.. Yeah... No. Door location doesn't matter.
Look no further than Hamilton. Hell, those are CNG.
Note... I edited my post above with a link that provides an official souce on the Orion VI hybrids.

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View PostM. Parsons, on Sep 21 2006, 01:47 AM, said:

Umm.. Yeah... No. Door location doesn't matter.
Look no further than Hamilton. Hell, those are CNG.

Oh lol so that explains these VIs with middle doors... I thought hamilton had the rear door versons?





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