Pacific Greyhound Lines

Pacific Greyhound Lines, Western Greyhound Lines, or Greyhound Lines West was a subsidary of Greyhound Lines in the west coast of the United States.

Commute service was provided between the North Bay, East Bay, Peninsula (and San Jose), and San Francisco. Commute service was also provided in southern California.

History

Active as Pacific Greyhound Lines by 1935 to 1957
Renamed Western Greyhound Lines from 1957 to 1960
Renamed to Greyhound Lines West from 1960 onwards
CPUC allows fare increases for East Bay routes with provision that busses have AC.
East Bay commute service ended c. 1973 with the opening of BART
Santa Monica - Long Beach service ended, 1974

Divisions

Division 3 - Southern California
Division 5 - San Francisco Bay Area

Facilities

San Francisco 7th St Depot (between Market and Mission)
San Francisco Ferry Building
San Francisco Transbay Terminal
Oakland Terminal (San Pablo Ave and Castro St)
Concord Depot - Grant St & Concord Blvd
Pittsburg Depot - Railroad Ave & 8th St
Antioch Depot - G St

Intercity Routes

Intercity routes operated as part of the Greyhound route network

Northern California Commute Routes

Commute/interurban routes later serviced by SamTrans, alongside Golden Gate Transit. Contra Costa County routes ended with the starting of BART service c. 1973.

Marin County Commute Routes

Service area transferred to Golden Gate Transit^[1]


Marin County Timetable, April 26, 1970

Route	To	From	Routing	Notes
A	Novato	San Francisco - 7th St	via main highway direct
B	Novato	San Francisco - 7th St	via Sausalito/Hamilton AFB.
C	San Rafael	San Francisco - 7th St	via Sausalito, Corete Madera, Larkspur, Kentfield, Ross, San Anselmo, Fairfax
CA	San Rafael	San Francisco - 7th St
D	Manor	San Francisco - 7th St	via Waldo Cut-Off, Marin City, Corte Madera, Larkspur, Kentfield, Ross, San Anselemo, Fairfax
E	Mill Valley	San Francisco - 7th St	via Sausalito, Marin City, Almonte, Miller Ave
E	Marin City	San Francisco - 7th St		Supplemental Peak Time Service
F	Fairfax	San Francisco Ferry Building
G	Manor	San Rafael	via San Anselmo	Local route/Marin County
H	Belvedere	San Francisco Ferry Building
K	Kentfield	San Francisco Ferry Building	Service to Ross
L	Mill Valley	San Francisco - 7th St	Bypass Sausalito, via Waldo Cut-off
N	Marin City	San Francisco Ferry Building
O	Manor	San Francisco	via Waldo Cut off, Marin City, Greenbrae, Kentfield Corners, San Anselmo
R	Belvedere	San Francisco Ferry Building	Bypass Sausalito
S	San Anselmo	San Francisco Ferry Building	Bypass Sausalito
SA	Mill Valley	Marin City		Sausalito Ferry Shuttle
T	San Anselmo	San Francisco Ferry Building	Via Sausalito
U	Mill Valley	San Francisco Ferry Building	To Miller Ave
V	Mill Valley	San Francisco Ferry Building	To Blythedale Ave
W	San Rafael	San Francisco Ferry Building	Via Main Highway, Hamilton AFB
Z	Novato	San Francisco Ferry Building

Peninsula Commute Routes

Service area transferred to SamTrans. Certain routes, such as route B, became the basis of the SamTrans network.

Routes were transferred in July 1977.

Greyhound TDM-5303s in samTrans livery (sans titles) were operated on the commute routes from 1976-1977. From July 1977 onward, samTrans titles were added.^[2]


Peninsula Timetable, September 6, 1972

Route	To	From	Routing	Notes
B	Redwood City	San Francisco - 7th St	Protero Ave, Brisbane, SSF, SFO Airport, Broadway-Burlingame, California-San Mateo Drive, El Camino Real	Weekday daytime 20 minute service. Became 7B under samTrans, line 292 currently.
B	Redwood City	San Jose
C	San Jose	San Francisco - 7th St	Express via 101 to Ralston Ave	Dropped by Samtrans
C	Palo Alto	San Francisco - 7th St		Supplemental Peak Time Service
D	San Jose	San Francisco - 7th St	via 101 Freeway to Burlingame, then via El Camino Real (depot stops only)
F	San Jose	San Francisco - 7th St	Express via 101 to Ralston Ave, then via El Camino Real
G	Redwood City	San Francisco - 7th St	via Potrero Ave, Bayshore Blvd, 101 to 3rd Ave San Mateo	To SamTrans 7F, 7R, and 18F.
H	Palo Alto	San Francisco - 7th St	via United Air Lines SFO Maintenance Base
K	Palo Alto	San Francisco - 7th St
L	San Mateo	San Francisco - 7th St	Variation of M Route only via South San Francisco
M	San Mateo	San Francisco - 7th St		To SamTrans as line 5M
N	Pedro (Linda Mar)	San Francisco - 7th St	Bayshore and Alemany Blvds to Westlake, Sharp Park, Linda Mar
O	Half Moon Bay/Linda Mar	San Francisco - 7th St	Howard St, S Van Ness and San Jose Ave to Westlake, Sharp Park, Linda Mar, HMB	Select trips to Half Moon Bay. To samTrans as 1A
S	Skyline	San Francisco - 7th St	Howard, S Van Ness, San Jose Ave, Westlake, Skyline Blvd to San Bruno Ave
Z	San Mateo	San Francisco - 7th St	Express to San Bruno	To SamTrans as 7Z and 19F.

East Bay (Contra Costa) Commute Routes

Service ended with the start of BART.


East Bay Timetable, September 6, 1972

Route	To	From	Routing	Notes
A	Danville	SF Transbay Terminal	Express between SF and Rudgear Rd, Alamo.	Commute direction only
C	Antioch	San Francisco - 7th St	Eastshore Freeway, Richmond,Pinole, Pt Chicago, Antioch. via Martinez	Commute, 1 midday trip, and weekend
D	Danville	SF Transbay Terminal	Local SF-Lafayette, direct to Alamo and Danville
F	Orinda to Charles Road	SF Transbay Terminal
O	Antioch	San Francisco - 7th St	Local SF to Antioch via Oakland depot, Walnut Creek, Concord	All day, weekdays, weekends
R	Concord to Oak Grove Road	SF Transbay Terminal	Oakgrove Rd (Concord), Ygnacio Valley Rd, Walnut Creek to SF
S	Concord	Berkeley	Local route	Commute direction only
S	Martinez	Berkeley	Local route
T	Walnut Creek	SF Transbay Terminal	Local route
U	Antioch	San Francisco - 7th St	Local SF - Antioch via Walnut Creek, Concord. Bypass Oakland Depot	All day service, weekdays, weekends
W	Concord	San Francisco - 7th St	via Oakland Terminal, Walnut Creek, Willow Pass	PM Commute only, weekdays, weekends
X	Walnut Creek	San Francisco - 7th St	Express between SF and Oakland Blvd (Walnut Creek)
Y	Walnut Creek	SF Transbay Terminal	Express between SF and San Luis Road (Walnut Creek)
Z	Walnut Creek	Oakland	Express from Oakland to Oakland Blvd (Walnut Creek)	Commute direction only

Southern California Commute Routes

Route	To	From	Routing	Notes
E	San Diego	San Ysidro	Nonstop Express	Hourly, during commute only
F	San Diego	San Ysidro	via Logan Heights, Harbor Drive. Via Freeway to San Ysidro	Every 30 minutes then selected trips during early morning and evening
H	San Diego	San Ysidro	via Logan Heights, National City, Harborside, Palm City, Nestor	Hourly offpeak, 10-15 minutes during commute
O	San Diego	San Ysidro	via Logan Heights, Chula Vista, Castle Park, Otay	Hourly from 6 AM - 12 AM
No letter^[3]	Long Beach	Santa Monica	Ocean Park, Venice, Universal City, LAX, Manhattan Beach, Hermosa Beach, Redondo Beach, Torrance, San Pedro, Harbor City, Wilmington	Ended 1974

Roster

Pacific Greyhound Lines had letter K prefix.
Western Greyhound Lines had letter P prefix.
No prefix during Greyhound Lines West.
Fleet was numbered in the 9000 series in 1960, save Macks and TDM-4515s^[4]

Fleet Number(s)	Build Date	Manufacturer	Model	Engine	Transmission	Notes
53-56	1940	YCC	PG-2502
57-62	1940	YCC	PG-2504
68	1940	YCC	PG-2504			Ex-Demo; bought in 1941.
69-83	1941	YCC	PG-2505
91-323	1948	GMC	PD-4151
115-116	1939	YCC	PG-2502
140-159	1943	YCC	PGA-3701
474-558	1947	GMC	PD-3751
559-563	1948	GMC	PD-3751
K564-K568	1948	GMC	PD-3751
735-799	1940	YCC	PDG-4101
800-821	1941	YCC	PDG-4101
900-929	1955	GM	TDM-4515			Serials 101-130 Ex K900-K929. 915-929 assigned to Portland, OR suburban routes
930-944	1954	GM	TDM-4515			Serials 024-038 Ex Northwest Greyhound Lines(Seattle, WA) Y210-Y224 Stayed in front white dip scheme
K1400-K1436	1951	GMC	TDM-5103	Detroit Diesel 6-71	Spicer 4-Speed Manual	Nicknamed "Queens" (short for "Queen Mary") by drivers because of 40' length and 102" width. They were the largest buses ever bought by Greyhound for transit or highway use, at the time. K1400-K1416 originally assigned to San Diego to San Ysidro (border) route, 1951-1961 One sold to Eastshore Lines, leased to Sacramento Regional transit, later sold to Arrow Lines in RT colors.
K1450-K1524	1954	GMC	TDM-4801	Detroit Diesel 6-71	Spicer 4-Speed Manual	Nicknamed "fifties" by drivers (50 passenger seats) K1450-K1464 used on Santa Monica - Long Beach route. Transferred to Bay Area in c. 1960 Renumbered P1450-P1524 Transferred to Western Greyhound Lines and renumbered 9450-9524. 1468 retired by Greyhound , sold to Smith Charter with 12 other TDM-4801s. Renumbered to Smith 517. Sold to Peerless Stages, renumbered 322. Acquired by Golden Gate Transit from third party and restored.
1500-1604	1970	MCI	MC-7	Detroit Diesel 8V71N	Spicer 4-Speed Manual
1601-1650	1947	ACF	IC-41
1605-1623, 1625-1649	1971	MCI	MC-7	Detroit Diesel 8V71N	Spicer 4-Speed Manual
1624	1972	MCI	MC-7	Detroit Diesel 8V71N	Spicer 4-Speed Manual
P1670-P1699	1956	Mack	C49DM	Mack END 673	4-Speed Manual	Used heavily on Marin County routes^[5] Retired in early 1970s P1683 preserved by Pacific Bus Museum
1700-1749	1944	GMC	PGA-3702
1751-1825	1945	GMC	PDA-3702
1800-1804	1970	MCI	MC-7	Detroit Diesel 8V71N	Spicer 4-Speed Manual
1805-1924	1971	MCI	MC-7	Detroit Diesel 8V71N	Spicer 4-Speed Manual
K1870-K1899, K1850-K1859	1954	GMC	PD-4104	Detroit Diesel 6-71	Spicer 4-Speed Manual
K1900-K1997, K1860-K1869	1953	GMC	PD-4104	Detroit Diesel 6-71	Spicer 4-Speed Manual
2000-2118	1972	MCI	MC-7	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
K2000-K2004	1950	GMC	PD-4103	Detroit Diesel 6-71	Spicer 4-Speed Manual
K2005-K2099	1951	GMC	PD-4103	Detroit Diesel 6-71	Spicer 4-Speed Manual
K2000-K2099	1951	GMC	PD-4103
K2100-K2129	1952	GMC	PD-4103
2119-2149	1973	MCI	MC-7	Detroit Diesel 8V71N	Allison HT-740
K2120-E2129	1952	GMC	PD-4103	Detroit Diesel 6-71	Spicer 4-Speed Manual
2200-2274	1974	MCI	MC-8	Detroit Diesel 8V71N	Allison HT-740
2200-2274	1974	MCI	MC-8	Detroit Diesel 8V71N	Allison HT-740
2300s	1955	GMC	PD-4501 Scenicruiser	Two Detroit Diesel 8V71	Spicer 4-speed manual	Renumbered to 8000s Used on SFO-Travis AFB Route 47 seats 8005 preserved by Pacific Bus Museum
2500-2549	12/63	MCI	MC-5	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
2550-2599	1964	MCI	MC-5	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
2600-2749	1964	MCI	MC-5	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
2750-2799	1965	MCI	MC-5A	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
2850-2874	1966-1967	MCI	MC-5A	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
2875, 2886-2894	1967	MCI	MC-5A	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
2900-2925	1966	MCI	MC-5A	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
7000-7020	1968	MCI	MC-7	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
7021-7110	1969	MCI	MC-7	Detroit Diesel 8V71N		The first batch of buses numbered 7060-7062 were renumbered or sold off and a second batch of buses built in 1970 took the place of those numbers.
7189-7199	1970-1972	MCI	MC-7	Detroit Diesel 8V71N		7199 was built in 1970.
7200-7284	1966	MCI	MC-5A	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
7586-7651, 7653-7721	1975	TMC	MC-8	Detroit Diesel 8V71N	Allison HT-740
7700-7869	1961-1962	GMC	PD-4106	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
7723-7776	1975	TMC	MC-8	Detroit Diesel 8V71N	Allison HT-740	7767-7776 were renumbered or sold off with a new batch built in 1977 taking those numbers. Two buses numbered 7742 in this batch. One is T35-307-1248, the other is T57-595-1318
7900-7999	1967	GMC	PD-4107	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
8000T-8007T	1955	GMC	PD-4501 Scenicruiser	Two Detroit Diesel 8V71	Spicer 4-speed manual	Ex 2300s Used on SFO-Travis AFB Route 47 seats 8005 preserved by Pacific Bus Museum
8290-8490	4/1980	TMC	MC-9	Detroit Diesel 8V71N	Allison HT-740	8379 was bought by an unknown operator. It was eventually acquired by a private owner (IL Lic. Plate: 21 469 K) and was listed on Facebook Marketplace in Lake in the Hills, IL in August 2020.^[6]
8492-8691	1981	TMC	MC-9	Detroit Diesel 6V92TA	Allison HT-740
8401-8449	1965	MCI	MC-5A	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
8700-8749	1967	MCI	MC-5A	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
8785-8810	1968	MCI	MC-5A	Detroit Diesel 8V71N
9000-9099	1954-1956	GMC	PD-4501 Scenicruiser	Two Detroit Diesel 8V71	Spicer 4-speed manual
9100-9199
9311-9313		GM	TDM-4509			Serial numbers 326-328 Ex 1311-1313 Ex Northwest Greyhound Lines(Seattle, WA) Y200-Y202. Stayed in front white dip scheme
9300-9399
??-9429-??		GM	TDM-5103
9450-9524	1954	GMC	TDM-4801	Detroit Diesel 6-71	Spicer 4-Speed Manual	Renumbered from P1450-P1524 9498-9504 used in San Diego - San Ysidro and Santa Monica - Long Beach routes Some to Smith Charter Service as 502, 508, 516-517, 520, 524, 533, 535-539 Many sold to Peerless Stages or Bill Billings (Eastshore Lines). Eastshore Lines then leased them to Sacramento Regional Transit District which operated them for a short time, in Smith Charter Service paint scheme. Several Eastshore/Sacramento RT sold to Arrow Lines in RT colors.
9532?-9543?
9600-9659	1965	GMC	TDM-5303	Detroit Diesel 6V71N	Manual 4-speed	20 leased to Golden Gate Transit in 1972, then repainted into Pespi Scheme Some in Pepsi scheme used for San Diego - San Ysidro and Santa Monica - Long Beach routes after late 1972 9600-9649 operated under contract to Samtrans using Greyhound drivers. Repainted and renumbered to 9800-9849 All retired, in Socal, by 12/1985
9700-9709	1961	GMC	TDH-5301	Detroit Diesel 6V71N	Allison VH	Originally assigned to San Diego to San Ysidro (border commute) route, 1961-early 1970s Transferred to Bay Area in early 1970s All 10 purchased by Bill Billings bus leasing company. Billings leased them to Santa Clara County Transit, which later bought them and renumbered to 4702-4711. SCCTD 4708 preserved by Pacific Bus Museum. Ex-Greyhound 9706
9710-		MCI	MC-6			Used on border route
9800-9849	1965	GMC	TDM-5303	Detroit Diesel 6V71N	Manual 4-speed	Formerly numbered 9600-9659 9600-9649 operated under contract to Samtrans using Greyhound drivers. All retired by 12/1985

References

↑ Collection of J. Husing
↑ Jim Husing Notes
↑ NorCal Express Winter 2010
↑ J. Husing Notes
↑ https://pacbus.org/museum-roster/pacific-greyhound-lines-p1683/ Pacific Bus Museum
↑ www.facebook.com

[1] Collection of J. Husing

[2] Jim Husing Notes

[3] NorCal Express Winter 2010

[4] J. Husing Notes

[5] ttps://pacbus.org/museum-roster/pacific-greyhound-lines-p1683/ Pacific Bus Museum

[6] www.facebook.com

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Pacific Greyhound Lines

Contents

History

Divisions

Facilities

Intercity Routes